Saturday, November 21, 2009
Story of Jewish People and Where They Came From, and Where Do the Goldfoots Fit In?
Ellen Levy-Coffman wrote a 21 page report called :
A MOSAIC OF PEOPLE; THE JEWISH STORY AND A REASSESSMENT OF THE DNA EVIDENCE. (Go to http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.htm )
Our story is thus: the male line or Ydna shows we belong to Q1b haplogroup originating in the Altai Mountains which would be Siberia, Mongolia, Russia, parts of Turkey. This is referred to as "Central Asia." Some historians say this is mainly ancestry from the Khazars, an ancient tribal people who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. Their Royal House converted and it was an empire in the middle of the Muslims and Christians as well as their own tribal religion, so was a surprise to many. They did not cause their subjects to convert. It was a choice left open.
Our female line or mtDNA shows we belong to the W haplogroup originating according to "Shen" in 2004 of less certain origins because it is difficult to say if we represent the original gene pool of the Jewish founders or are due to an admixture with European populations. Nevertheless, we are in the mix of 30% of Ashkenazim mtDNA. We W's have been found to come from the N1 haplogroup and we populate about 10% of the Jewish females in Eastern Europe. Breaking off from N1 happened at least 2,000 years ago. N1's came from Western and Central Asia according to a more recent paper.
Our grandparents who carried these genes actually met in Council, Idaho, so the similarity that they were both from Poland and probably their hometowns had been a part of Lithuania was coincidental and helpful, being they most likely spoke the same language. It helped to cause "Love at first sight." I'd say that they were both very lucky to meet each other.
A MOSAIC OF PEOPLE; THE JEWISH STORY AND A REASSESSMENT OF THE DNA EVIDENCE. (Go to http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.htm )
Our story is thus: the male line or Ydna shows we belong to Q1b haplogroup originating in the Altai Mountains which would be Siberia, Mongolia, Russia, parts of Turkey. This is referred to as "Central Asia." Some historians say this is mainly ancestry from the Khazars, an ancient tribal people who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. Their Royal House converted and it was an empire in the middle of the Muslims and Christians as well as their own tribal religion, so was a surprise to many. They did not cause their subjects to convert. It was a choice left open.
Our female line or mtDNA shows we belong to the W haplogroup originating according to "Shen" in 2004 of less certain origins because it is difficult to say if we represent the original gene pool of the Jewish founders or are due to an admixture with European populations. Nevertheless, we are in the mix of 30% of Ashkenazim mtDNA. We W's have been found to come from the N1 haplogroup and we populate about 10% of the Jewish females in Eastern Europe. Breaking off from N1 happened at least 2,000 years ago. N1's came from Western and Central Asia according to a more recent paper.
Our grandparents who carried these genes actually met in Council, Idaho, so the similarity that they were both from Poland and probably their hometowns had been a part of Lithuania was coincidental and helpful, being they most likely spoke the same language. It helped to cause "Love at first sight." I'd say that they were both very lucky to meet each other.
THE START OF JUDASIM
The Israelite Kingdom started in the 11th century BCE between modern-day Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. It started with Abraham and Sarah leaving the land of Ur with a handful of relatives and workers. Before that was the Bronze Age. They went into the land of Canaan, populated by a Western Semitic people consisting of a diverse ethno-cultural mix. Among groups met by our first Jewish people were the Amorites, Hittites, Hurrians, Amalekites (a hateful people that Haman is said to have come from), and Philistines or Sea People.
The Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple in 70CE and scattered the Israelite people from their homeland. Many were taken as slaves to Rome and its colonies. This is seen as starting the Jewish diaspora.
By the 2nd century BCE, Jews were establishing communities in Rome. By the 1st century CE there were as many ass 50,000 Jews in and around Rome. Most were poor Greek-speakers, looked down upon because they were poor or were slaves. Even though many gained their freedom eventually, they continued to live in and around Rome. Rome is also where the ghetto was created, used, and where the word comes from.
By the 1st century, Jews had spread to a number of places in the world, starting the Ashkenazi Jewish community. They began to migrate north of the Alps, most likely from Italy.
By 600 CE, Jews were in many parts of Europe. There were small settlements in Germany, France and Spain. There were also small Jewish settlements along the Black Sea in the east as well as larger communities in Greece and the Balkans.
Finally, by the 12th and 13th centuries CE, Jews were being expelled from many countries of Western Europe. However, they were granted charters to settle in Poland and Lithuania. This may be when both our grandparents's ancestors entered the area. Now the Askenazi Jewish population expanded rapidly in Eastern Europe, growing from a possible 15,000-25,000 people from the 13th to 15th centuries to 2 million by 1800. By 1939 there were 8 million Jews in Europe.
HOW THE KHAZARS ENTERED EUROPE-POLAND-LITHUANIA
The Khazar empire was between the Black and Caspian Seas between the Caucasus Mountains and the Volga River. This is today's Russian Ukraine. In 740 CE, the king converted to Judaism. The then Jewish Khazars ruled their kingdom until the 12th to 13th century and their empire dissolved. They are described as people of Turkish stock. these people spoke a Turkish dialect similar to the language of today's Chuvash Soviet Republic people, but their ethnic origins is still debated. Many many Eurasian tribes who were driven West by the Chinese were called "Turks". "Khazar" may come from the turkish root-"gaz", meaning to wander or nomad.
Khazars have been described with fair complexions, blue eyes, long hair rather reddish, with large bodies. They appeared "wild". This was from an Armenian writer. From an Arab writer the description was that they did not look like the Turks. They have black hair. (Whatever did the Turks look like, then?) There were said to be two kinds; blacks who were swarthy like a kind of Indian and a white kind, very handsome. Now Turkish people refered to the ruling classes as white and the lower clans as black, so we really are not sure, but this was from an Arab.
Whatever, Khazars were seen in Europe around the middle of the 5th century, in the Hun's territory and rules. The Khazars seemed to enter and mix in with Europe's Jewish communities. They make up only 5% of the total Jewish population of today.
Labels: DNA test, Khazars, mtDNA W, Ydna Q1b
